1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:11,560 [Music] 2 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:14,570 so Anusha on sorry thank you so much for 3 00:00:20,660 --> 00:00:16,710 taking the time to join us you are the 4 00:00:23,660 --> 00:00:20,670 first Iranian in space the first Muslim 5 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:23,670 woman in space and the first female 6 00:00:28,099 --> 00:00:26,910 tourist as they call it I'm curious with 7 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:28,109 all those titles and maybe I'm missing 8 00:00:30,890 --> 00:00:30,000 others but which of those are you most 9 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:30,900 proud of 10 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:34,980 oh well I just you know first private 11 00:00:40,490 --> 00:00:37,710 explorer in space that happens to be a 12 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:40,500 woman and it's a big step for women 13 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:45,120 because you know for so many years in 14 00:00:50,090 --> 00:00:47,510 many different cultures and countries 15 00:00:52,369 --> 00:00:50,100 it's believed that women can't do 16 00:00:54,619 --> 00:00:52,379 certain things so I like that title 17 00:00:57,529 --> 00:00:54,629 because it shows that we can and we do 18 00:00:59,330 --> 00:00:57,539 and we will continue to yeah and I think 19 00:01:02,689 --> 00:00:59,340 those titles are gonna be more and more 20 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:02,699 impressive because soon in a matter of a 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:04,559 couple of years there aren't going to be 22 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,170 many more firsts as we have more 23 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:09,840 tourists in space right yes absolutely I 24 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:11,970 think the first will be then you know to 25 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:15,240 Mars maybe first private citizens who 26 00:01:21,499 --> 00:01:18,330 will settle on Moon or Mars or other 27 00:01:22,910 --> 00:01:21,509 parts of the you know space so there's 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:22,920 still a lot of firsts 29 00:01:27,679 --> 00:01:25,290 because there's this infinite frontier 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:27,689 of space that has opened up now for 31 00:01:32,569 --> 00:01:30,570 exploration so I hope there will be more 32 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:32,579 for our younger generation probably not 33 00:01:34,700 --> 00:01:33,360 for my dinner 34 00:01:36,859 --> 00:01:34,710 bottom line as we sit here today how 35 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:36,869 many people have been in space I think 36 00:01:43,219 --> 00:01:41,369 over 550 people so far and actually to 37 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:43,229 the Space Station where you spent 11 38 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:46,860 days how many um most of them actually 39 00:01:52,219 --> 00:01:49,110 have been to Space Station the early 40 00:01:54,639 --> 00:01:52,229 Apollo program was to moon so that's a 41 00:01:58,130 --> 00:01:54,649 very small number I think it's in the 42 00:02:02,270 --> 00:01:58,140 mmm if I'm not mistaken the 2025 people 43 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:02,280 in total have made it to 2 to the moon 44 00:02:09,279 --> 00:02:07,560 maybe not even that many but to the 45 00:02:12,410 --> 00:02:09,289 space station most of our actually 46 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:12,420 recent flights have been to a space 47 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:13,380 station where 48 00:02:18,110 --> 00:02:15,000 to the International Space Station or 49 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:18,120 Mir prior to that or just orbiting in 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:23,120 the shuttle so a lot of orbital sort of 51 00:02:29,510 --> 00:02:27,690 stations so you fulfilled lifelong dream 52 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:29,520 yes somewhat are you kind of a crazy 53 00:02:34,970 --> 00:02:32,640 dream because one thing that I've read 54 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:34,980 that you you've said is that you would 55 00:02:41,180 --> 00:02:37,650 have been okay not returning from space 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:41,190 dying there in order to go that's how 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:44,970 strong your urge was absolutely I felt 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:48,210 like my life would not have any meaning 59 00:02:55,220 --> 00:02:52,290 without experiencing being in space and 60 00:02:57,650 --> 00:02:55,230 when I actually flew to space station 61 00:03:00,260 --> 00:02:57,660 when I was weightless when I was up 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:00,270 there and able to look at our planet 63 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:02,610 from space I felt at home I feel like 64 00:03:07,010 --> 00:03:05,220 I've finally arrived then and I was 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:07,020 happy to just stay there and have come 66 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:10,770 back so I felt that if the price is that 67 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:12,930 you know there's a one-way mission that 68 00:03:16,190 --> 00:03:14,340 they will say who's gonna raise their 69 00:03:17,690 --> 00:03:16,200 hand and god this one-way mission that I 70 00:03:20,570 --> 00:03:17,700 would definitely do that have you seen a 71 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:20,580 therapist about this my husband says I 72 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:23,160 should I be but seriously 73 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:24,870 obviously you know and I've read some of 74 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:26,340 your background I know your parents were 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:28,620 divorced at a young age at five years 76 00:03:33,010 --> 00:03:30,570 old I mean do you think there is 77 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:33,020 something from your childhood that 78 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:35,910 ultimately relates to today that that 79 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:40,860 incredible burning desire I think what 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:44,010 may be the root cause of this is this 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:46,850 innate sense of curiosity I have in me 82 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:50,730 I'm always curious to learn new things 83 00:03:56,870 --> 00:03:54,090 to know about unknown places any type of 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:56,880 mystery attracts so am i but I'm not 85 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,370 willing to die in space so yours is kind 86 00:04:04,060 --> 00:04:01,200 of off the charts a little bit yeah a 87 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:04,070 little bit extreme well you you know I 88 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:06,750 heard one of your but perhaps in the 89 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:08,790 documentary we talked about turmoil when 90 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:11,610 you were a child and seeking solace in 91 00:04:18,770 --> 00:04:15,390 looking at space so is space kind of 92 00:04:21,530 --> 00:04:18,780 your safe place it is it's a place that 93 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:21,540 I think it's ideal for new beginning 94 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:24,150 it's a place that you can start anew 95 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:25,710 build new things 96 00:04:31,130 --> 00:04:28,230 you know if we are settling for example 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:31,140 on Mars it's our opportunity to create a 98 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:33,690 whole new type of civilization a whole 99 00:04:39,470 --> 00:04:35,790 new way of interacting with each other a 100 00:04:41,690 --> 00:04:39,480 whole new perhaps way of governance so 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:41,700 it's like a blank sheet of paper you can 102 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:44,970 start from the first time so when you 103 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:47,310 were there did it feel like home 104 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:51,000 it felt home when I was in Space Station 105 00:04:58,370 --> 00:04:54,840 I felt this sense of freedom which was 106 00:05:00,320 --> 00:04:58,380 very difficult to explain because I knew 107 00:05:02,690 --> 00:05:00,330 I'm there temporarily I knew that I 108 00:05:05,780 --> 00:05:02,700 would be returning to Earth so there was 109 00:05:09,260 --> 00:05:05,790 no you know sort of sense of why I was 110 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:09,270 feeling so free but I was I felt maybe 111 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:11,400 it's because I was free from gravity 112 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:14,250 that I felt I'm free from all the you 113 00:05:19,340 --> 00:05:16,290 know craziness that goes on in 114 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:19,350 everyone's life you know and in mine too 115 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:21,840 and I was in Space Station and it was 116 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,030 like this out-of-body experience that I 117 00:05:30,770 --> 00:05:27,600 was looking back on on our planet I was 118 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:30,780 looking back at you know sort of where I 119 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:33,840 lived where I spent my childhood where I 120 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:35,580 went to school all my memories 121 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:37,740 everything was right in front of me and 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:40,830 then I was completely detached from it 123 00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:43,530 separate from it so I felt a sense of 124 00:05:49,970 --> 00:05:46,950 freedom that's like that's me there but 125 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:49,980 that's the new me here in space and I 126 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:52,110 can be anything I can do anything 127 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:53,550 how did it meet with what your 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:05:57,360 expectations were super exceeded my 129 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:01,530 expectations I loved and imagine how it 130 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:04,380 feels to float freely in space and be 131 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:07,530 there and see earth I had seen thousands 132 00:06:12,890 --> 00:06:09,500 of pictures of Earth from space but 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:12,900 seeing it with my own eyes it was like 134 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:16,770 this you know change that happened in me 135 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:20,400 where I was able to see everything as a 136 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:24,120 whole as you know interconnected as one 137 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:27,900 planet as you know this one place that 138 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:31,770 we call home and and it said it puts 139 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:34,320 things in different perspectives so it 140 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:37,289 redefined my relationship with the world 141 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:39,449 around me with the people around me 142 00:06:44,869 --> 00:06:42,210 with you know prioritizing things in my 143 00:06:48,170 --> 00:06:44,879 life and so it was very profound 144 00:06:49,549 --> 00:06:48,180 experience is that unique to you or do 145 00:06:50,989 --> 00:06:49,559 you find in talking to other astronauts 146 00:06:53,989 --> 00:06:50,999 they have the same experience I think 147 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:53,999 most astronauts have a similar 148 00:07:00,860 --> 00:06:58,490 experience in varying degree 149 00:07:04,670 --> 00:07:00,870 there's even books written about this 150 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:04,680 overview effect so I think there's this 151 00:07:09,290 --> 00:07:06,990 common thread when you talk to 152 00:07:12,260 --> 00:07:09,300 astronauts about how they felt when they 153 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:12,270 were in space and how they all realized 154 00:07:20,239 --> 00:07:16,800 how our planet is this really precious 155 00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:20,249 home for all of us for all of humanity 156 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:24,060 and how humanity and this world around 157 00:07:30,739 --> 00:07:27,599 us are all connected together and that 158 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:30,749 you sort of realize that in a profound 159 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:33,449 way when you're in space so I had I 160 00:07:38,269 --> 00:07:35,580 think a sliver of that experience in 161 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:38,279 watching gravity which I thought and I'm 162 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:39,449 curious your thoughts about it but I 163 00:07:45,829 --> 00:07:42,539 thought does a great job of making you 164 00:07:48,499 --> 00:07:45,839 feel the way that you're just describing 165 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:48,509 because when when Sandra Bullock Lam's 166 00:07:53,929 --> 00:07:51,360 and she's in the water and then rises up 167 00:07:57,529 --> 00:07:53,939 from the water and then gets to shore 168 00:08:00,980 --> 00:07:57,539 and kind of crawls to shore almost like 169 00:08:03,679 --> 00:08:00,990 early life I guess and see it doesn't 170 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:03,689 quite but essentially kisses the ground 171 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:06,080 and she's almost like hugging earth and 172 00:08:11,239 --> 00:08:08,969 it really resonated with me 173 00:08:12,529 --> 00:08:11,249 the thing that Wow because you know 174 00:08:17,629 --> 00:08:12,539 you're in space with her this whole time 175 00:08:20,809 --> 00:08:17,639 and then to get back home and that home 176 00:08:23,929 --> 00:08:20,819 is not Los Angeles or any particular 177 00:08:25,610 --> 00:08:23,939 place home is earth exactly that's kind 178 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:25,620 of the feeling that I got in watching 179 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:27,599 that am i describing it okay you're 180 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:30,120 describing it perfectly because the 181 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:32,370 definition of home changes for you when 182 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:35,039 you go to space it becomes earth it's 183 00:08:40,730 --> 00:08:38,250 not any geographic location on earth but 184 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:40,740 it's the entire earth and that is a 185 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:43,500 profound shift in perspective in the way 186 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:46,260 you view the world so wherever you 187 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:48,510 travel wherever you go you feel at home 188 00:08:52,810 --> 00:08:50,850 because this is your home this is your 189 00:08:55,690 --> 00:08:52,820 planet right so kudos to 190 00:08:58,180 --> 00:08:55,700 the director Alfonso Curran who won 191 00:09:00,760 --> 00:08:58,190 seroma who did an amazing job with that 192 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:00,770 but you know when I first watched it I 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:03,920 eat my popcorn and my large Coke Zero I 194 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:05,930 always have when I go to the movies and 195 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:07,760 I went to bed thinking that was a good 196 00:09:12,370 --> 00:09:09,920 good movie and woke up the next day and 197 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:12,380 when I'm doing what I was doing so how 198 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:15,410 do we translate that feeling that I had 199 00:09:20,350 --> 00:09:17,390 for a fleeting moment you probably had 200 00:09:22,090 --> 00:09:20,360 more intensely but okay so what does 201 00:09:26,530 --> 00:09:22,100 that really translate to earth is our 202 00:09:29,950 --> 00:09:26,540 home what do we take with that I've 203 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:29,960 always advocated sending you know world 204 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:33,710 leaders to space because I think it will 205 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:35,210 profoundly change the way they make 206 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,000 policy it has changed me in the way I 207 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:40,880 choose what I work on I've worked on 208 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:42,860 things that will have global impact 209 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:45,620 that's why I'm here at XPrize foundation 210 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:48,380 I choose to work on projects that go 211 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:51,980 beyond any small boundaries so it has 212 00:09:59,740 --> 00:09:56,090 opened up my field of view to larger 213 00:10:04,030 --> 00:09:59,750 scale problems and impacts that I can be 214 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:04,040 part of but you know for a world leader 215 00:10:09,730 --> 00:10:06,950 who's making policy that will affect the 216 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:09,740 lives of hundreds of millions or to 217 00:10:14,770 --> 00:10:12,380 billions of people you know being able 218 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:14,780 to look at the world in that perspective 219 00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:17,630 and understanding how collaboration is 220 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:21,200 needed and necessary in order for us to 221 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:24,170 continue to have this planet as our home 222 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:26,320 a place that we can all live together 223 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:29,990 you know it would be very important so 224 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:33,590 this type of an experience a shift in 225 00:10:39,850 --> 00:10:36,710 perspective is at the core of our 226 00:10:41,380 --> 00:10:39,860 decision-making and that's why people 227 00:10:43,930 --> 00:10:41,390 who are making very important decisions 228 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:43,940 would be great if we can have them have 229 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:46,010 this type of experience yeah I mean it 230 00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:48,770 sounds very idealist and today we have 231 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:50,630 institutions like the United Nations 232 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:53,810 which is kind of a mess right so that's 233 00:10:57,250 --> 00:10:55,370 why I'm trying to understand is how do 234 00:11:00,370 --> 00:10:57,260 we take this philosophical standpoint 235 00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:00,380 and make it practical so it really makes 236 00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:04,040 a difference so we've had ideas I'm part 237 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:05,560 of a group of 238 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:08,710 no astronauts that because ourselves 239 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:10,480 constellation and we want to grow this 240 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:13,480 group and we just actually announced our 241 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:15,490 work in trying to bring this experience 242 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:20,080 to everyone and there are technologies 243 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:23,950 like VR and AR that we can use there are 244 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:26,320 other ideas we have in educating people 245 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:28,210 and taking them through this journey 246 00:11:35,010 --> 00:11:31,690 that we went on but giving them slight 247 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:35,020 experiences through storytelling to help 248 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:36,790 them realize you talk about the movie 249 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:39,130 gravity and how it helps you get a 250 00:11:44,130 --> 00:11:41,710 glimpse of that so that's one movie but 251 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:44,140 are there more immersive experiences 252 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:46,930 that we can create that will allow 253 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:49,420 someone who has not been on Space 254 00:11:56,070 --> 00:11:53,170 Station feel like they can see the world 255 00:11:58,650 --> 00:11:56,080 as a whole and experience that MA bottom 256 00:12:00,720 --> 00:11:58,660 line what is the shift that you're want 257 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:00,730 to achieve as far as people's thinking I 258 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:02,410 mean obviously generally speaking to 259 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:03,610 think more globally but what does that 260 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:07,360 really mean so we live in United States 261 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:10,390 where we have access to a lot of things 262 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:13,660 that's not part of everyday life of you 263 00:12:21,329 --> 00:12:16,780 know most of the people outside of this 264 00:12:25,410 --> 00:12:21,339 country we use energy we use earth's 265 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:25,420 resources not thinking about well how 266 00:12:29,610 --> 00:12:27,390 long can we continue at this pace 267 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:29,620 consuming this without thinking 268 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:33,190 long-term so it actually shifts your 269 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:35,200 point of view to be more conscious about 270 00:12:42,990 --> 00:12:38,770 your everyday decisions in helping you 271 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:43,000 think long-term think about yeah I can 272 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:45,010 decide that you know I don't care about 273 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:47,410 how the rest of the world lives and I'll 274 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:50,380 continue to do what I'm doing but then 275 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:53,350 understand that very shortly all of that 276 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:56,350 will basically impact you as well so 277 00:13:01,290 --> 00:12:58,240 it's not like we all live in our own 278 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:01,300 cocoon and we're isolated from the rest 279 00:13:06,570 --> 00:13:04,180 of the world ignoring it doesn't make it 280 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:06,580 go away we are interconnected whether we 281 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:09,400 like it or not we are decisions impact 282 00:13:13,010 --> 00:13:10,620 everyone whether they rely 283 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:13,020 kid or not so realizing that 284 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:15,840 understanding it accepting it and making 285 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:18,330 it part of the everyday decision you 286 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:20,250 make it's important and it has different 287 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:22,050 meanings for different people as I said 288 00:13:29,510 --> 00:13:25,590 someone who is a leader within a large 289 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:29,520 industry or for a country or someone 290 00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:32,010 who's represented by United Nations 291 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:34,260 you know the decisions they make have 292 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:36,330 huge impact in the world long term 293 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:38,880 impact so that prospective shift at that 294 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:43,500 level has a lot of meaning and long-term 295 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:47,970 effect so it's important so is there a 296 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:49,800 virtual reality project that would give 297 00:13:54,970 --> 00:13:53,010 people that that feeling yes and yes we 298 00:13:57,770 --> 00:13:54,980 are working on a few things 299 00:14:00,590 --> 00:13:57,780 collaborating with you know a lot of 300 00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:00,600 artists scientists filmmakers 301 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:03,840 storytellers we're thinking about maybe 302 00:14:08,570 --> 00:14:05,940 even create collective you know 303 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:08,580 experiences that people across the world 304 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:11,040 can connect to a be your experience 305 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,690 together and experiences together 306 00:14:17,630 --> 00:14:15,600 because one of the unique things being 307 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:17,640 on the space station is that it's a 308 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:19,680 collaborative effort between a lot of 309 00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:21,540 different nations so when I was there we 310 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:24,500 had two Russian cosmonauts we had 311 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:27,330 American Spanish astronaut we had a 312 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:32,850 German astronaut and you know we spoke 313 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:34,500 different languages we came from 314 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:37,860 completely different backgrounds some of 315 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:39,630 us had trouble speaking the other 316 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:41,910 person's language different 317 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:44,310 personalities and yet we all came 318 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:47,070 together on this little home in space 319 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:50,880 and we worked well together man and we 320 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:53,010 figured out that we have to get along 321 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:55,170 we're earthlings we were Earthlings 322 00:15:01,490 --> 00:14:58,850 Earthlings on this spaceship you know 323 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:01,500 orbiting the Earth you know it reminds 324 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:04,230 me of 9/11 as Horrible's that was is 325 00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:06,930 what the country was like after 9/11 and 326 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:09,060 everybody really coming together albeit 327 00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:12,270 that's a country but bringing people 328 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:14,760 together there's nothing more important 329 00:15:20,780 --> 00:15:18,210 than that right and to all be Earthlings 330 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:20,790 together is the way to look at it I 331 00:15:24,020 --> 00:15:22,350 think that that VR thing would be 332 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:24,030 awesome especially here 333 00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:25,980 about that you get a sunrise and sunset 334 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:28,200 every 90 minutes you will you do a full 335 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:31,320 loop around in 90 minutes yeah right so 336 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:33,690 how long is the sunrise and how long is 337 00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:35,610 the sunset if it's taking you 90 minutes 338 00:15:40,580 --> 00:15:38,070 it's momentarily so you just you know 339 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:40,590 get a glimpse of it but you know the 340 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:43,770 colors are as beautiful you know as you 341 00:15:48,170 --> 00:15:45,990 can see it in any sunset or sunrise here 342 00:15:51,650 --> 00:15:48,180 on earth but a little different and it 343 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:51,660 goes very quickly so you've achieved 344 00:15:57,710 --> 00:15:53,940 your dream what I'm really curious about 345 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:57,720 is would obviously you want to go again 346 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:00,240 do you want to go again as strongly as 347 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:01,680 you wanted to go the first time in other 348 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:03,990 words are you willing to die there I go 349 00:16:10,340 --> 00:16:06,570 again I am still willing to go if there 350 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:10,350 is a mission to actually start maybe a 351 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:14,460 new habitation on the moon on Mars 352 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,440 I believe we first need to go to the 353 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:19,440 moon I'll be happy to go as part of the 354 00:16:25,850 --> 00:16:23,550 first crew and and start it off I just 355 00:16:29,270 --> 00:16:25,860 felt you can become a Martian you're 356 00:16:32,590 --> 00:16:29,280 going to betray us I'll be an earth 357 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:32,600 person you'll be an Earth Martian 358 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:37,110 earthling Martian yes no I I my desire 359 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:39,930 has intensified it and I would love to 360 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:45,180 go back yeah so right now they've the 361 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:47,250 next mission for someone who wants to be 362 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:51,240 a space explorer is how soon when's the 363 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:53,070 earliest somebody could become a space 364 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:57,120 explorer well there are still seats that 365 00:17:03,290 --> 00:16:59,010 are commercially available anyone who 366 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:03,300 wants to go I've heard of a I believe 367 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:05,970 Japanese businessman who's planning to 368 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:12,089 do a nooner trip with Elon I also know 369 00:17:16,550 --> 00:17:14,550 that the lunar trip mean landing no 370 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:16,560 there right now they're only planning to 371 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:20,640 just do as circumlunar trip which which 372 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:23,670 you did not do I did not do yeah no I 373 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:26,310 would love to go out and land on them of 374 00:17:34,130 --> 00:17:30,480 course why not but there's also we just 375 00:17:36,530 --> 00:17:34,140 I was in Mojave where Virgin Galactic 376 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:36,540 did a successful test flight 377 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:38,460 and actually I love what they're doing 378 00:17:43,490 --> 00:17:41,580 because it's a very short trip it will 379 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:43,500 give you a glimpse of space you spend 380 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:46,020 five minutes weightless and see the 381 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:49,350 blackness of this the space and the sky 382 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:53,610 and you know it will help you you know 383 00:17:57,860 --> 00:17:55,260 get a sense of what it means to be in 384 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:57,870 space and it's because of the fact that 385 00:18:02,240 --> 00:17:59,250 it doesn't require a lot of training 386 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:02,250 anyone can do it and it will be become 387 00:18:07,450 --> 00:18:04,350 more and more affordable to add that's 388 00:18:11,180 --> 00:18:07,460 kind of the least expensive right now 389 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:11,190 well right nice $250,000 I believe more 390 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:13,140 equivalent and the whole trip is only a 391 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:16,830 few hours yes a few hours and about five 392 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:20,070 minutes of that you're in space so you 393 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:22,140 don't even get the whole sunrise sunset 394 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:25,110 thing no no you take off from the same 395 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:27,090 location you land the same location you 396 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:29,340 basically go out of the atmosphere and 397 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:32,730 then you just return so compared to how 398 00:18:40,790 --> 00:18:35,160 far from Earth were you compared to that 399 00:18:45,890 --> 00:18:40,800 trip so that's about 60 mods or so and I 400 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:45,900 went to 220 months and tell me what is 401 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:47,070 going on with the International Space 402 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:50,610 Station so International Space Station 403 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,000 originally was put together by about 15 404 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:56,880 countries it was supposed to last for 15 405 00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:01,020 years the life time of that has been 406 00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:03,000 extended of course so it's still you 407 00:19:09,170 --> 00:19:06,600 know orbiting and being a home for a lot 408 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:09,180 of experiments and it used to be that 409 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,190 the shuttle would dock there yeah so 410 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:13,440 should the shuttle was actually made if 411 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:15,810 you looked at the shuttle most of it was 412 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:19,860 like a cargo ship where it was designed 413 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:21,930 to carry pieces of the space space was 414 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:23,880 sorry so the space station was built by 415 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:26,370 the shuttles the shuttle carry tsa's of 416 00:19:31,340 --> 00:19:28,350 the space station and in other countries 417 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:31,350 have shuttles no but the other countries 418 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:34,080 also launched some pieces and then they 419 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:35,910 also launched some pieces with the 420 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:38,130 shuttle so the Russians actually 421 00:19:43,070 --> 00:19:40,230 launched the first part of the space 422 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:43,080 station without the shuttle and so 423 00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:45,530 different pieces from Canada 424 00:19:50,860 --> 00:19:48,560 European Space Agency from us from 425 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:50,870 Russia they were all sort of launched 426 00:19:54,910 --> 00:19:52,760 into space through the shuttle or other 427 00:19:57,490 --> 00:19:54,920 programs and you know actually we're 428 00:19:59,410 --> 00:19:57,500 assembled in space so imagine if all 429 00:20:01,360 --> 00:19:59,420 these nations can build things and 430 00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:01,370 assemble them in space well I can't be 431 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:03,560 figure out what torque now whereas you 432 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:05,180 didn't go up in a space shuttle you know 433 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:06,950 I've been on rocket yes 434 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,790 a Russian rocket and none of that rocket 435 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:13,280 exists anymore right it all goes bye-bye 436 00:20:17,890 --> 00:20:16,100 yes it's not reusable and that's part of 437 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:17,900 the reason why it's expensive and why 438 00:20:23,860 --> 00:20:20,690 the work of companies like SpaceX or 439 00:20:26,140 --> 00:20:23,870 Blue Origin to create reusable access to 440 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:26,150 space is important because it reduces 441 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:29,000 the cost and it makes it safer because 442 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:31,130 we can reuse it and do it more often 443 00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:33,890 and it opens up a whole new way of maybe 444 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:36,380 using space resources to help solve our 445 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:38,450 problem here on earth so the technology 446 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,090 that you were in was not current 447 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:43,520 technology right it was all technology 448 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:45,830 it was all technology it was I launched 449 00:20:49,690 --> 00:20:47,510 from the same place Yuri Gagarin the 450 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:49,700 first man who went to space launch bomb 451 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,010 so a lot of the technology Kazakhstan in 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Kazakhstan if you look at his launch and 453 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,450 look at my launch there's not a lot of 454 00:21:01,390 --> 00:20:58,480 difference basically when you look at it 455 00:21:02,740 --> 00:21:01,400 so now how about the landing because I 456 00:21:05,290 --> 00:21:02,750 saw your landing it looked a little 457 00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:05,300 rough yes people people need to see this 458 00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:07,820 they can see it on the documentary is it 459 00:21:12,910 --> 00:21:09,470 was it two space tourists yes 460 00:21:14,350 --> 00:21:12,920 documentary yes but first of all why 461 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:14,360 didn't you guys land in the water that's 462 00:21:18,670 --> 00:21:16,310 where the Apollo used to land right yes 463 00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:18,680 so because these are these launches 464 00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:20,840 happen from Kazakhstan there's not a lot 465 00:21:28,570 --> 00:21:23,150 of large bodies of water right next you 466 00:21:32,170 --> 00:21:28,580 find a lake yes so it's a landing on the 467 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:32,180 ground so it's a little rough I mean how 468 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:33,410 fast were you guys going it almost 469 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:35,630 looked like the parachute wasn't working 470 00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:38,450 I mean that was serious impact right yes 471 00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:41,000 were you expecting that I thought that 472 00:21:47,020 --> 00:21:44,030 it would be softer but but I was warned 473 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,030 that it will be impact for it I describe 474 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:50,000 it it felt like a car crash yeah so I 475 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:53,170 had actually bruises from my 476 00:22:00,210 --> 00:21:56,710 seat belt the harness on because of the 477 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:00,220 landing but you know it's part of you 478 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:02,500 know the fun of going to space so when 479 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:05,620 you came back did you have the Sandra 480 00:22:09,690 --> 00:22:08,590 Bullock feeling of kissing Earth I 481 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:09,700 missed you so much 482 00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:11,500 or were you kind of feeling more at home 483 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:14,260 where you were good question 484 00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:17,890 I actually I was sad I was sad that I 485 00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:20,470 was back on earth not that I didn't miss 486 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:23,920 earth because the smells of the ground 487 00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:26,920 and the early morning Sun and the breeze 488 00:22:31,710 --> 00:22:29,740 was really special 489 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:31,720 when I first first pulled out of the 490 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:35,530 capsule but at the same time I mean all 491 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:38,170 of my life I had this like big dream of 492 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:40,870 going to space and you know here I was I 493 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:42,970 had just come back and I finished it and 494 00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:46,990 I'm like okay what do I do now so and I 495 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:49,420 missed it I and and part of not being a 496 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:51,550 professional astronaut it meant that I 497 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,230 didn't know if there will be another 498 00:22:56,430 --> 00:22:54,640 mission if you're a professional 499 00:22:58,770 --> 00:22:56,440 astronaut you land and you think okay 500 00:23:00,990 --> 00:22:58,780 I'm gonna work on my next mission but 501 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:01,000 for me it was like you know will I be 502 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:03,610 able able to experience that again and 503 00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:06,160 not knowing it was hard I was really 504 00:23:11,850 --> 00:23:09,640 depressed and sad but you got 11 days up 505 00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:11,860 there which is not bad compared to 506 00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:14,620 others and then speaking of smell you 507 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:17,620 talked about the smell of space yes I've 508 00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:19,210 never thought about the smell of space 509 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:23,260 before but tell us about that so when we 510 00:23:28,290 --> 00:23:25,960 first talked to the space station you 511 00:23:30,930 --> 00:23:28,300 know the two sides come together and 512 00:23:32,610 --> 00:23:30,940 because of the way that the hatches are 513 00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:32,620 shaped there's sort of like you 514 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:34,990 encapsulate part of space between the 515 00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:37,570 two doors before they open and usually 516 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:40,660 you open the hatch on the Soyuz side 517 00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:43,270 first so my crewmates had fun with me 518 00:23:46,530 --> 00:23:44,740 they said you know I know come and 519 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:46,540 you can't smell space I'm like humble I 520 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:48,520 smell spaces and I've just come here 521 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:50,710 when you open the door there's a space 522 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:53,290 between the two doors so when they open 523 00:23:57,420 --> 00:23:55,090 then I smelled it they said okay so what 524 00:24:00,150 --> 00:23:57,430 do you smell and I said well it smells 525 00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:00,160 like a burnt almond cookie and they're 526 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:02,470 like burnt almond cookies and that 527 00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:04,270 actually became part of my blog that 528 00:24:08,150 --> 00:24:05,190 everyone's like 529 00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:08,160 burnt all my cookie and later on others 530 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:11,100 don't agree with that well because I was 531 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:13,800 so specific why and then I tried to 532 00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:15,810 figure out why and I realized that 533 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:17,940 there's a little bit of a cyanide in 534 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,840 there in the you know the fuel that they 535 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:24,480 used to burn the trusters and that 536 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:27,930 almonds now comes from that little 537 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,870 cyanide that's in a few and then it was 538 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:32,400 because of this so you did necessarily 539 00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:34,050 small space you smelled stuff coming out 540 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:36,270 of the space they say yes out of the 541 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:38,610 trusters the way we were docking to 542 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:40,500 space station so that's why it smelled 543 00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:44,400 like that but yes so that the 544 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:45,660 International Space Station is the only 545 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:47,880 space station up there yes okay because 546 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:50,070 I wanted to fact-check gravity the movie 547 00:24:53,770 --> 00:24:51,420 a little bit because they talked about a 548 00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:53,780 Chinese space no actually yes so that 549 00:24:58,670 --> 00:24:56,670 the space station the international 550 00:25:02,270 --> 00:24:58,680 space station there is one China has 551 00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:02,280 launched their station also in the past 552 00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:04,950 that you know it's only used by the 553 00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:08,940 Chinese astronauts and they've done 554 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,880 their own experiments so one of the 555 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:13,440 things that we haven't done a good job 556 00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:15,870 is actually collaborating with the 557 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:18,180 Chinese in our space program so I'm 558 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:21,410 hoping that it will happen what about 559 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:22,890 George Clooney 560 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,110 you know you zoom in around out there I 561 00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:27,600 mean that that's that's real or the 562 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:30,600 other space suits yes you have you have 563 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:33,210 jetpacks that you can actually maneuver 564 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:36,330 and fly independently in a space suit 565 00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:38,280 was any of that happening while you were 566 00:25:44,270 --> 00:25:41,640 on the space station there were no 567 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:44,280 spacewalks when I was on during those 11 568 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:46,710 days but there has been spacewalks in 569 00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:48,780 the space what's happened all the time 570 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:50,940 where there's to repair something to 571 00:25:57,170 --> 00:25:54,200 install a new instrument for experiments 572 00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:57,180 so it happens all the time I would love 573 00:26:02,090 --> 00:25:59,220 to do a spacewalk but I've never done 574 00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:02,100 one yeah that costs a little bit more it 575 00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:03,900 doesn't it requires a lot more training 576 00:26:07,910 --> 00:26:05,340 yeah well that was another question I 577 00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:07,920 have for you so in the movie you've got 578 00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:09,720 Clooney is the experienced astronaut and 579 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:11,100 Sandra Bullock I'm not sure exactly what 580 00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:12,570 her training was but clearly it was less 581 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:16,200 but she manages without George to get 582 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:18,270 back to earth and and fly this thing 583 00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:18,900 over to the 584 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Chinese shuttle and then get on that and 585 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:22,410 get but I was just curious what training 586 00:26:25,790 --> 00:26:24,090 would you have had I mean of somehow 587 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:25,800 something horrible had happened up there 588 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:28,470 and you got to get back would you have 589 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:30,090 had the skill set to figure out how to 590 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:34,650 get back so anyone who tries or flies to 591 00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:36,270 space they have to go to the same 592 00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:38,040 training so I went to the same training 593 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:42,030 as the astronauts did but you know in in 594 00:26:45,530 --> 00:26:43,710 your movie example Clooney is a 595 00:26:48,530 --> 00:26:45,540 commander so they went through a lot 596 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:48,540 longer training more intense training 597 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:51,720 and Sandra is the sort of a scientist 598 00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:54,570 who's on this mission and in the real 599 00:26:59,840 --> 00:26:56,430 world we call it the spaceflight 600 00:27:02,480 --> 00:26:59,850 participants so people who you know 601 00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:02,490 still have a mission and they go as a 602 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:04,860 full astronaut but they have like a 603 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:06,450 scientific mission for example to 604 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:09,510 accomplish so I trained as a you know 605 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:12,090 spaceflight participant I spent about a 606 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,940 year in Russia training preparing for 607 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:16,400 the flights at the same training that 608 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:19,260 astronauts go through and learn how to 609 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:22,530 operate the instruments inside the Soyuz 610 00:27:28,550 --> 00:27:25,470 on the space station one thing about the 611 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Soyuz is that and that's why it's the 612 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:31,890 scape capsule for the space station is 613 00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:35,130 that you basically as a last resort if 614 00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:36,870 everything goes wrong you press a button 615 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:40,620 and it just you know heads back home and 616 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:43,110 it lands on earth that's what you used 617 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,590 if if it's an emergency it will just you 618 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:49,200 can have that emergency landing it will 619 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:51,780 not be pleasant it will be very rough 620 00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,840 the g-forces we'll be extreme so when 621 00:27:59,450 --> 00:27:56,640 you land you won't be able to just get 622 00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:59,460 out like Sandra Bullock and walk so you 623 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:01,020 would be a little bit unconscious which 624 00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:03,930 I used in the movie the escape what did 625 00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:06,780 you use so I we came back with the Soyuz 626 00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:09,960 as well but we came to a planned landing 627 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:12,750 so when you do a planned landing you do 628 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:14,790 couple of orbits and then you come down 629 00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:17,940 slower so your trajectory is in a way 630 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:20,760 that you have less g-forces on your body 631 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:23,190 so even though it's a rough landing it's 632 00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:25,590 you know compared to the alternative 633 00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:28,740 emergency landing it's a pleasant easier 634 00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:31,020 softer land so how many people have done 635 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:33,300 the trip that you've done 636 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:37,360 as a passenger paying passenger as the 637 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:39,460 paying passenger I think seven 638 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:43,510 passengers so far and who's selling 639 00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:47,350 those tickets space adventure was the 640 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:49,780 company who negotiated with the Russians 641 00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:51,610 the first person who went was Dennis 642 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:54,790 Tito who is a very famous businessman 643 00:29:02,160 --> 00:28:59,290 here actually in California and he 644 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,170 worked with space adventures and they 645 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:04,960 managed to negotiate the first contract 646 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:06,250 with the Russian space so they're 647 00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,650 essentially middlemen they yes they buy 648 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:10,480 the seats and then they sell the seat 649 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:12,850 who want to go uh-huh and they make sure 650 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:14,380 they're always at full capacity and they 651 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:18,430 discount the prices and the prices have 652 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:21,010 gone up because you know because there's 653 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:23,530 no longer a shuttle program now actually 654 00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:25,990 NASA astronauts buy tickets on the 655 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,420 Russian space interesting through the 656 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:31,120 same company no they buy directly so 657 00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:33,880 they get a bulk discount but that the 658 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:35,920 point is that a lot of the seats are now 659 00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:39,930 sold to European Space Agency and NASA 660 00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:42,300 so they're not a lot of seats for 661 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:45,580 commercial passengers so the u.s. right 662 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:49,390 now NASA could not send a rocket up to 663 00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:51,490 the US they are working on their own 664 00:29:57,660 --> 00:29:53,860 rockets so there's something similar to 665 00:30:00,720 --> 00:29:57,670 the Atlas Rockets so the design of what 666 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:00,730 NASA is working on is going back to the 667 00:30:07,530 --> 00:30:04,210 Apollo type of capsule and rockets but 668 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:07,540 reusable rockets they also contract with 669 00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:11,170 companies like Blue Origin and SpaceX 670 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:13,420 so there's a commercial program now 671 00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:16,660 building you know launches to the space 672 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:19,990 station so for example SpaceX has the 673 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:22,570 Dragon capsule even though it hasn't 674 00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:25,360 carried passengers it is built to carry 675 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:27,640 passengers an astronaut to space station 676 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:31,240 so I think they have plans to do 677 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:34,090 actually a manned space flight in the 678 00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:36,070 next couple of years I believe so what 679 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:37,420 would you say is the most important 680 00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:38,770 thing happening at that space station 681 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,080 right now it might say right now not 682 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:42,640 literally today but you know in general 683 00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:45,130 in the past couple years and going for 684 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:48,070 what are they doing it's a lot of their 685 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:50,110 two types of research that I think is 686 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,590 very important one research is regarding 687 00:30:58,650 --> 00:30:55,440 a lot of medical and health-related 688 00:31:01,530 --> 00:30:58,660 research because in the microgravity of 689 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:01,540 space you can design a lot of new 690 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:03,730 treatments and drugs and you know you 691 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:06,130 can form crystals that you can form here 692 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:08,410 on earth so there's a lot of health and 693 00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:10,570 health is that because of zero gravity 694 00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:12,940 yes the microgravity but we can't create 695 00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:15,070 zero gravity on earth to do the same no 696 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,390 no these suborbital flights for example 697 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:22,080 are also interesting ways of doing 698 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:25,330 experiments you know in basically the 699 00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:27,070 plane goes into a deep dive to create 700 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:30,580 zero gravity yeah so so that's one area 701 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:32,650 the other area is we're doing a lot of 702 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:35,110 experiments so with closed loop systems 703 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:37,030 because if you want to create a base on 704 00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:40,050 Moon or Mars we need to be able to 705 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:42,760 sustain life without having to carry 706 00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:44,710 things constantly from Earth of course 707 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:47,590 that would you know work so creating 708 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:50,710 closed loop systems where we can you 709 00:31:57,090 --> 00:31:54,370 know generate enough food energy water 710 00:31:59,550 --> 00:31:57,100 and other means that's to sustain life 711 00:32:01,770 --> 00:31:59,560 without having to bring external 712 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:01,780 resources it's another set of 713 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:03,610 experiences and experiments that's 714 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:06,550 happening on space station so going back 715 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:08,410 to fact checking gravity in the movie 716 00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:12,190 Russia shoots down its own satellite 717 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:15,640 I think supposedly because there's it's 718 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:17,410 gone bad or there's information they 719 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:20,290 want to get rid of first of all is that 720 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:22,780 is it possible for to shoot down a 721 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,780 satellite from Earth you wouldn't shoot 722 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:27,760 down you would just disabled so it will 723 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:30,850 deorbit and burn down and in space so I 724 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:33,310 think so a lot of things that happen in 725 00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:35,830 the movie gravity it can happen the fact 726 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:37,420 that it all happened and everything was 727 00:32:40,910 --> 00:32:39,280 so close and you could jump from one to 728 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:40,920 the other that part of it was not 729 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:43,960 necessarily true but you know the space 730 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:45,490 station the depiction of the space 731 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:47,290 station the inside of space station a 732 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:49,390 lot of the scenery were you know 733 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:51,190 actually things that were provided by 734 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:53,170 them it is it orbiting where all the 735 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:54,610 satellites are orbiting or is that all 736 00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:57,370 different different levels so 737 00:33:01,860 --> 00:32:59,410 depending on the satellites they orbit 738 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:01,870 at different levels so the geostationary 739 00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:04,930 satellites are much higher so they can 740 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:07,390 stay over the same place on earth as the 741 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:09,990 earth move so it's in the same location 742 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:13,270 and you have low Earth orbit satellites 743 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:16,300 that would then you know basically cover 744 00:33:22,770 --> 00:33:18,970 a larger area of Earth so they can do 745 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:22,780 imagery and surveillance over wider area 746 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:25,330 but not all the time and then you have 747 00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:27,160 constellation of satellites that are 748 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:30,420 used for communication for broadcasting 749 00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:34,210 for different activities GPS satellite 750 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:35,740 system you have military satellite 751 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:38,620 system it's very busy up there yeah so 752 00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:40,450 one of our satellites you're up there I 753 00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:43,300 don't know I don't know and the numbers 754 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:45,340 are increasing because now you have nano 755 00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:47,860 SATs and CubeSat this really small 756 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:49,900 satellites I mean high school students 757 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:51,610 are building satellites now and you can 758 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:53,530 launch them easily 759 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:55,270 they're very satellites that were 760 00:33:58,620 --> 00:33:57,190 experimental satellites by high school 761 00:34:00,510 --> 00:33:58,630 suits that were launched from the space 762 00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:00,520 station actually just you know sort of 763 00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:04,929 shot out of back up the space station so 764 00:34:11,310 --> 00:34:08,740 the whole orbital debris issue is 765 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:11,320 becoming a big issue because in space 766 00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:13,330 even a smallest thing that would hit the 767 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:15,340 hall of the space station can create a 768 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:18,399 hole and create a lot of problems has it 769 00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:19,810 ever been hit by anything you know yes 770 00:34:25,590 --> 00:34:22,840 yes there has been incidents and what is 771 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:25,600 the debris from a comet or something it 772 00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:29,710 could be pieces of you know space debris 773 00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:32,679 from a satellite the orbiting could be 774 00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:35,470 just it's been hit more than once or yes 775 00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:38,950 Wow and depending on the speed of these 776 00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:41,320 things you know even a small rock can 777 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:43,419 make a hole because the hall is not that 778 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:45,610 thick actually the whole of the space 779 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:48,010 station so there has been issues things 780 00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:49,929 hitting the end dissolve any way of 781 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:55,030 detecting that incoming some the bigger 782 00:35:00,450 --> 00:34:58,210 pieces yes smaller pieces know if 783 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:00,460 there's a big piece of space debris or 784 00:35:05,849 --> 00:35:03,040 something coming there's a ability to 785 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:05,859 maneuver a little bit to change orbit a 786 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:08,050 little bit and maneuver around objects 787 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:09,190 but 788 00:35:16,290 --> 00:35:13,330 not easy so the dangers are there in 789 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,300 space there's a lot of collaboration 790 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:17,920 between different entities to make sure 791 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:20,290 things don't collide in space a lot of 792 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:22,090 these big satellite communication 793 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:24,850 satellites are expensive so they're 794 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:27,190 they're standards where there is 795 00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:29,050 communication between different 796 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:31,750 countries to make sure that they stay in 797 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:33,880 the same you know place they're supposed 798 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:34,630 to 799 00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:37,710 when they need an FAA of space 800 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:42,220 right but it doesn't really exist not 801 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:44,710 the FAA of space but there is you know 802 00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:47,260 the same way that lots of different 803 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,360 governments collaborate regarding 804 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:51,760 resources in Antarctica I mean are the 805 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:53,230 rules like for instance okay these type 806 00:35:55,890 --> 00:35:54,490 of satellites are supposed to fly from 807 00:35:58,110 --> 00:35:55,900 here to here and these from here to here 808 00:36:00,090 --> 00:35:58,120 yeah you register your orbit so there is 809 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:00,100 a database of where all the satellites 810 00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:02,530 are which orbit and what is that entity 811 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:06,220 that's regulating this it's more of a 812 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,270 registration I think it's managed by 813 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:12,160 United Nation and I cannot remember the 814 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:14,770 name right now mm-hmm but it's it's 815 00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:17,200 there it's there so you have this dream 816 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:19,780 that all the countries are gonna come 817 00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:22,090 together and work together in space to 818 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:25,000 create all the citizens I ain't seen it 819 00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:28,540 I mean I'm seeing a space war I mean how 820 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:33,580 do we avoid it being a space work and it 821 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:35,260 aren't we already in a space where I 822 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:38,530 don't think we're in a space war 823 00:36:46,770 --> 00:36:43,810 I think governments are using some of 824 00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:46,780 the space resources to gather 825 00:36:55,290 --> 00:36:51,790 intelligence but we have not weaponized 826 00:36:59,130 --> 00:36:55,300 space yet I hope we never swept in a 827 00:37:04,880 --> 00:36:59,140 space no one will win no one will win in 828 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:04,890 that war and it's short-sighted it's I 829 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:08,260 mean just if we were to learn from 830 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:11,920 history name one war that we can say the 831 00:37:17,170 --> 00:37:14,450 result was good and there is 832 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:17,180 there's never a good outcome from any 833 00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:19,880 war and they can be prevented and what 834 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:23,900 do we fight over money money I mean 835 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:25,730 there's a lot of money to be gained by 836 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,770 being first in space at various things 837 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:29,599 and now we have private enterprise 838 00:37:35,049 --> 00:37:33,410 involved so whenever you got money at 839 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:35,059 stake people tend to fight but if you 840 00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:37,130 destroyed the thing that you would spend 841 00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,470 your money on well what good does it do 842 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,599 if you have if I have billions of 843 00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:43,760 dollars but the entire earth is now 844 00:37:49,089 --> 00:37:46,040 destroyed what would I spend the money 845 00:37:52,990 --> 00:37:49,099 on yeah where would I drive my brand-new 846 00:37:55,210 --> 00:37:53,000 I don't know Tesla or Ferrari - I mean 847 00:37:57,130 --> 00:37:55,220 yeah well I mean let's put war aside but 848 00:37:58,750 --> 00:37:57,140 space race yeah you know we have a space 849 00:38:00,670 --> 00:37:58,760 race going on 850 00:38:03,370 --> 00:38:00,680 that's about money and that's about 851 00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,380 power and you know China very proudly 852 00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:05,359 announcing control it's not it's not 853 00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:07,430 just about money it's about control and 854 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,630 fear and right now I know for whatever 855 00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:14,240 reason if you look at the early days of 856 00:38:18,010 --> 00:38:15,470 space program 857 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:18,020 you know Sputnik was launched created 858 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:20,089 fear because we didn't understand what 859 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:21,950 is this thing beeping over our head and 860 00:38:26,650 --> 00:38:24,200 whether it's you know capturing our 861 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:26,660 information you know sending brain waves 862 00:38:32,049 --> 00:38:30,530 to brainwash us we had no idea humans 863 00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:32,059 are afraid of things they don't 864 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:35,540 understand on control so it instigated 865 00:38:42,370 --> 00:38:39,680 this race which actually advanced a lot 866 00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:42,380 of technologies in us and and you know 867 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:45,140 the space race resulted in advancement 868 00:38:49,809 --> 00:38:47,690 in technology at the end of what 869 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:49,819 happened is actually space program 870 00:38:59,500 --> 00:38:53,630 historically has been a place where we 871 00:39:02,940 --> 00:38:59,510 use it to actually resolve conflict so 872 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:02,950 where there was the docking of the space 873 00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:08,270 of the shuttle with Mir or coming 874 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:13,220 together of you know Russian space 875 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:16,490 assets with us-based asset astronauts 876 00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:19,640 have been you know people who would help 877 00:39:27,870 --> 00:39:25,030 negotiate conflict areas so in general 878 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,880 you know space has been a unifying 879 00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,680 factor certainly compared to ours 880 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:31,119 certainly compared to what's going on a 881 00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:33,430 nurse is right right right so even in 882 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:35,980 nations in conflict when you talk to the 883 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:38,230 astronauts and the space program they 884 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:40,990 find ways to work together so right now 885 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,089 the race is between US and China and if 886 00:39:51,809 --> 00:39:49,119 you look at this race again same thing 887 00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:51,819 that happened in the past I don't see 888 00:39:57,569 --> 00:39:55,359 what is gained by you know elevating 889 00:39:59,519 --> 00:39:57,579 conflict between US and China nobody 890 00:40:01,230 --> 00:39:59,529 wins so you mentioned that there's a 891 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:01,240 Chinese space station out there that it 892 00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:02,410 doesn't seem to interact with the other 893 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:03,700 countries and sounds like you've raised 894 00:40:12,799 --> 00:40:11,249 from my understanding which is limited 895 00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:12,809 because I'm not in the space program 896 00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:15,880 that there has been interest to 897 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:18,460 collaborate but there is a resistance on 898 00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:23,680 the US side to collaborate I think by 899 00:40:28,829 --> 00:40:26,259 collaborating we learn from each other 900 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:28,839 and we learn about what is the other 901 00:40:33,289 --> 00:40:31,450 person up to but by saying no I don't 902 00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:33,299 want to work with you well then you just 903 00:40:38,279 --> 00:40:35,500 don't know what they're working on and 904 00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:38,289 then you won't be able you will make up 905 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,329 your own story and we usually the 906 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:42,640 stories we make are horrible they're not 907 00:40:46,529 --> 00:40:44,650 good but if you're there and you're you 908 00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:46,539 are allowed to actually go to a Chinese 909 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:49,599 Space Station and be there and see what 910 00:40:52,769 --> 00:40:51,430 the experience they're running why not 911 00:40:56,339 --> 00:40:52,779 what's wrong with that 912 00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:56,349 why not send the US astronaut to a 913 00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:00,640 Russian space station or why not have a 914 00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:02,980 Chinese astronaut come to an 915 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:04,539 International Space Station so you 916 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:06,730 believe we're invited to the Chinese 917 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:09,970 space station I believe saying no yeah I 918 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:12,670 bet you if we if not a lot of volunteer 919 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:15,490 to be the US representative I would but 920 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:18,220 I I'm sure there are other NASA 921 00:41:23,309 --> 00:41:20,500 professional NASA astronaut that would 922 00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:23,319 be happy to fly to a and and be part of 923 00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:25,720 a mission to a Chinese space station I 924 00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:26,920 would like you to go and check things 925 00:41:32,249 --> 00:41:28,539 out and report back let us know what 926 00:41:35,069 --> 00:41:32,259 they were to go and and I I promise you 927 00:41:37,529 --> 00:41:35,079 that I think it will result in more 928 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:37,539 positive things and this whole 929 00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:38,980 fear-based 930 00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:41,190 you know competition yeah 931 00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,900 I try to be an idealist but in general 932 00:41:47,539 --> 00:41:45,119 I'm I'm a realist for the most part yeah 933 00:41:50,029 --> 00:41:47,549 and I see country the hopeful hopeful 934 00:41:52,490 --> 00:41:50,039 optimist countries racing for nuclear 935 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:52,500 weapons all right you got North Korea 936 00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:55,650 and Iran and so on and in the same way 937 00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:57,720 if there was some way to have something 938 00:42:02,740 --> 00:41:59,400 in space that gives you some dominating 939 00:42:08,059 --> 00:42:02,750 position countries are gonna gravitate 940 00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:08,069 toward that not countries leaders in 941 00:42:11,569 --> 00:42:09,000 those countries 942 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:11,579 egotistical leaders of countries because 943 00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:15,119 I don't care to have control over China 944 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:19,500 as a citizen you wouldn't but someone 945 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:25,170 who wants to have control you know yes 946 00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:28,530 so it's more of leadership's in each 947 00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:31,740 country's that want world dominance I 948 00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:34,020 know the same type of leaders such as 949 00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:36,150 say North Korea that want to do what 950 00:42:39,529 --> 00:42:37,710 they're doing here or gonna want to do 951 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:39,539 it in space know do they have the 952 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:43,230 capability now no but is it a danger to 953 00:42:48,019 --> 00:42:45,930 look out for in the future of course I 954 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:48,029 mean same thing with nuclear weapon can 955 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:50,010 people build nuclear weapons yes 956 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:52,260 technology for doing all of this is out 957 00:42:57,460 --> 00:42:54,930 there it's not secret building Rockets 958 00:43:00,349 --> 00:42:57,470 and going to space is not a secret 959 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:00,359 building nuclear weapon there is a thing 960 00:43:04,339 --> 00:43:02,130 where we all have to be earthlings 961 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,349 together and for instance possibly 962 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:06,240 colonize Mars to create a new home for 963 00:43:11,029 --> 00:43:08,970 humans on the next asteroid yes right we 964 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:11,039 can talk about that a minute but you 965 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:15,270 also have the defense element of at the 966 00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:17,190 National Defense where you know you have 967 00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:19,140 to be cognizant of that risk I mean 968 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,980 America has to be alert to the fact that 969 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,720 if China or North Korea or someone 970 00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:26,400 created some dominating position in 971 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:28,230 space that that ultimately could be very 972 00:43:34,819 --> 00:43:31,049 adverse to our interests on earth you 973 00:43:37,069 --> 00:43:34,829 can think about defense in terms of I 974 00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:37,079 need to build a weapon because the other 975 00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:39,539 guy is building a weapon or you can say 976 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:42,180 let's sit at a table and talk so neither 977 00:43:50,539 --> 00:43:47,250 one of us builds a weapon just you know 978 00:43:53,180 --> 00:43:50,549 let's learn from the nuclear program the 979 00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:53,190 fact that we started building nuclear 980 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:54,300 weapons 981 00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:56,370 that now everyone can build it and now 982 00:44:00,320 --> 00:43:58,770 we're all concerned about countries that 983 00:44:02,810 --> 00:44:00,330 we don't want to have nuclear weapon 984 00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:02,820 building one and really you know is 985 00:44:06,130 --> 00:44:05,400 there a way for us to prevent it no not 986 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:06,140 really 987 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:10,230 so the best thing is prevention you know 988 00:44:14,810 --> 00:44:11,730 so we need to work together there need 989 00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,820 to be space treaties yeah and there are 990 00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:17,040 space treaties for peaceful use of space 991 00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:19,560 so we need to honor those treaties and 992 00:44:24,050 --> 00:44:21,750 not walk away from them okay now let's 993 00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,060 talk about the privatization of space 994 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,240 because on the one hand it's probably a 995 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:29,040 fabulous thing I've read something that 996 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:31,770 is it the Falcon rocket the SpaceX did 997 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:34,230 that it cost ten percent of what it 998 00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:36,330 would cost NASA to build that based on 999 00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:39,300 NASA's own estimates so that's pretty 1000 00:44:43,610 --> 00:44:41,400 incredible intends to tell you this is a 1001 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:43,620 direction we need to go in absolutely 1002 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,610 and I think the we're private companies 1003 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:50,520 can add value is when things are not 1004 00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:52,770 experimental anymore where there is a 1005 00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,420 business case to be made when there's 1006 00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,640 efficiencies to be gained businesses 1007 00:45:01,550 --> 00:44:58,400 tend to do better because you know 1008 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:01,560 there's no necessarily a lot of new 1009 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,410 technologies that come out of you know 1010 00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:06,720 continuously building rockets and going 1011 00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:08,670 to space so it's a repeatable thing so 1012 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,680 companies can come up with a better way 1013 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:13,680 of doing that and NASA is a research 1014 00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:16,770 organization so what they can do is 1015 00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:19,140 focus their resources and effort on 1016 00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:23,070 where businesses don't have a reason to 1017 00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:26,100 go so when it's about a robotic landing 1018 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:29,760 on other planets or their moons to learn 1019 00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:32,010 about and exploring the rest of our 1020 00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:34,140 galaxy that's where I think NASA 1021 00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:37,310 resources will come to great value 1022 00:45:42,860 --> 00:45:39,900 building rockets to go to space that 1023 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:42,870 companies like SpaceX chlorogene build 1024 00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:45,690 better faster cheaper safer rockets to 1025 00:45:49,610 --> 00:45:47,640 carry more people yes so let's talk 1026 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,620 about what are the business reasons to 1027 00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:50,880 go into space you got launching 1028 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:53,160 satellites obviously and you've got 1029 00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:56,370 space tourism are there other business 1030 00:46:02,540 --> 00:45:58,200 reasons for companies to want to go into 1031 00:46:04,850 --> 00:46:02,550 space so I actually look at it like the 1032 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:04,860 early days of internet being a tech 1033 00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:06,250 entrepreneur 1034 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:08,830 and being around for a long time I 1035 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:11,410 remember days where Internet was only 1036 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:13,570 used by governments and large 1037 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:16,510 universities it was difficult to get 1038 00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:18,490 access to difficult to use 1039 00:46:23,730 --> 00:46:20,920 so only very limited number of people 1040 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:23,740 had access to it once we had companies 1041 00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:26,770 like Netscape creative easier way of 1042 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:29,980 interacting with people and Internet was 1043 00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:32,980 opened up to a large audience then 1044 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:35,020 people came up with all sorts of 1045 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,710 creative ways of using Internet and it 1046 00:46:44,099 --> 00:46:40,960 started evolving and becoming what we 1047 00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:44,109 cannot live without today so I think 1048 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:46,750 space can be the same thing if we open 1049 00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:48,940 up the access to space by reducing the 1050 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:51,580 cost and opening it up people will come 1051 00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:53,890 up with creative way of using it some of 1052 00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:56,680 the things that I want to you know 1053 00:47:02,220 --> 00:46:59,530 challenge people with is we talk about 1054 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,230 cloud computing for example what is 1055 00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:04,000 cloud computing it's basically these 1056 00:47:09,390 --> 00:47:06,700 massive data centers around the globe 1057 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:09,400 where they're sucking tons of energy to 1058 00:47:15,390 --> 00:47:12,490 cool down and to power these massive 1059 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:15,400 computer systems why can't we put this 1060 00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:17,710 in orbit if we have this massive storage 1061 00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:20,700 errors its space is very cold we have 1062 00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:22,750 abundant 1063 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:25,720 solar energy with solar panels that can 1064 00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:27,820 be up there let's put the cloud above 1065 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:31,060 the cloud and access it that way there 1066 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:34,030 are tons of research again in the 1067 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:37,089 medical area in new material sciences 1068 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:39,420 manufacturing that can be moved to space 1069 00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:42,310 so we can actually reduce the burden on 1070 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:44,740 the resources on our planet by moving 1071 00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:46,390 certain things that do not have 1072 00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:50,320 real-time access needs to to orbit and 1073 00:47:55,859 --> 00:47:53,560 and help our environment and our planet 1074 00:47:59,310 --> 00:47:55,869 and also create a more efficient way of 1075 00:48:01,770 --> 00:47:59,320 using them so is the is it fair to say 1076 00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:01,780 the u.s. is way ahead of other countries 1077 00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:04,349 as far as private enterprise in space I 1078 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:07,359 believe so I I said they're fair safe 1079 00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:10,690 and is most of that in partnership with 1080 00:48:17,579 --> 00:48:14,140 NASA yes so the fact that and that's 1081 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:17,589 where I credit XPrize when we started 1082 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:19,450 with the price that we 1083 00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:23,049 behind the Ansari X PRIZE the notion of 1084 00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:25,390 any private company doing anything in 1085 00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:27,700 space was completely unknown and unheard 1086 00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:31,480 of one of the major attributes of XPrize 1087 00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:33,369 the Ansari X PRIZE to the whole 1088 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:35,950 privatization of space was that the work 1089 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:39,280 we did with FAA and different government 1090 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:42,250 agencies and policy makers to educate 1091 00:48:47,730 --> 00:48:44,170 them about the benefits of having 1092 00:48:50,130 --> 00:48:47,740 private industries involved and because 1093 00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:50,140 of the work over the 10 years new 1094 00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:52,630 policies were made actually a new 1095 00:48:57,329 --> 00:48:55,089 division in FAA was formed to deal with 1096 00:49:00,270 --> 00:48:57,339 so technically it wasn't even legal 1097 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:00,280 before no it wasn't legal so a private 1098 00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:01,690 citizen couldn't shoot himself up in 1099 00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:03,960 this bill we had to actually get very 1100 00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:07,270 special permission and head of FAA had 1101 00:49:11,730 --> 00:49:09,640 to come visit the company to even allow 1102 00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:11,740 the launch to happen to win the prize 1103 00:49:17,309 --> 00:49:13,540 when people couldn't even do test 1104 00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:17,319 flights like that so it was a lot of 1105 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:19,660 work that went into creating the 1106 00:49:24,569 --> 00:49:21,640 environment for this industry to be 1107 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:24,579 created and that's why u.s. is ahead of 1108 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:26,230 everywhere else because this type of 1109 00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:27,970 change happened here when I was curious 1110 00:49:34,049 --> 00:49:31,000 about that because you put up the money 1111 00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:34,059 the Ansari prize 10 million dollars to 1112 00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:36,280 create a race for the first company to 1113 00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:39,400 be able to send a rocket into space and 1114 00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:42,420 be able to return and go twice in what 1115 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,520 twice in two weeks and created this race 1116 00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:47,920 yes to that similar to Charles Lindbergh 1117 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:50,260 yes it was chasing a similar price 1118 00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,930 across the Atlantic Ocean so prior to 1119 00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:55,359 the prize what was going on for instance 1120 00:49:59,839 --> 00:49:57,609 Elon Musk was he already up to something 1121 00:50:03,720 --> 00:49:59,849 prior to the prize no I mean the prize 1122 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:03,730 instigated this whole idea of maybe we 1123 00:50:06,809 --> 00:50:05,710 can be involved with this me I mean it 1124 00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:06,819 really is and I want you to pat yourself 1125 00:50:11,099 --> 00:50:08,740 on the back if it's probably it really 1126 00:50:12,839 --> 00:50:11,109 was the instigator to privatization of 1127 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,849 space absolutely and I think the Pat is 1128 00:50:17,609 --> 00:50:15,040 not just to my back but Peter Diamandis 1129 00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:17,619 who was the founder and the person 1130 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,710 behind the idea of the prize who started 1131 00:50:26,789 --> 00:50:23,680 the XPrize foundation and and then he 1132 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,799 found me and my family to back him on 1133 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:29,200 this and and I was already on this path 1134 00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,510 of finding my way to space and who are 1135 00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:32,800 path crossed just at the right moment 1136 00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:35,500 yes in fact I read something where you 1137 00:50:38,850 --> 00:50:37,360 said that if you have a dream talk about 1138 00:50:41,130 --> 00:50:38,860 it all worth because it's more likely to 1139 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:41,140 come true tell me how that played into 1140 00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:44,710 this I I think it's important so the way 1141 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:46,840 Peter found out about my passion is like 1142 00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:49,570 anytime I did an interview I told people 1143 00:50:57,690 --> 00:50:53,620 that my passion is to go to do with the 1144 00:50:59,970 --> 00:50:57,700 job but with my job and actually I might 1145 00:51:01,980 --> 00:50:59,980 need to take a long vacation exactly 1146 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:01,990 people actually looked at me like I was 1147 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:04,990 crazy like who is this crazy girl who 1148 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:08,140 wants to go to his face but in most 1149 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:09,730 cases people just didn't take me 1150 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:12,610 seriously but I was serious about it so 1151 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:14,470 I talked about it all the time read 1152 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:15,310 about it 1153 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:17,410 I tried to talk to people who knew 1154 00:51:21,570 --> 00:51:19,930 something about it so that's how you 1155 00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:21,580 make your dream come true by just 1156 00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:23,320 keeping it in your head it won't go 1157 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:25,720 anywhere so if you have a dream and you 1158 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,790 want to do something about it the first 1159 00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:30,640 step is to talk about it so what about 1160 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,080 Elon Musk though because my understand 1161 00:51:37,110 --> 00:51:34,720 is he was not part of the competition he 1162 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:37,120 was not part of the competition but we 1163 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:39,220 were actually in conversation with him 1164 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:42,010 because we wanted him to also be part of 1165 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:45,520 the sponsorship program and sponsor the 1166 00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:47,290 prize and being engaged and involved 1167 00:51:51,930 --> 00:51:50,260 with it he always had a passion just 1168 00:51:54,990 --> 00:51:51,940 like me he had the passion to go to Mars 1169 00:51:58,140 --> 00:51:55,000 so that's the reason right now his focus 1170 00:52:00,690 --> 00:51:58,150 is on Mars he even started SpaceX with 1171 00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:00,700 the vision long-term vision of going to 1172 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:02,830 personally want to go to Mars a person 1173 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:04,510 he wants to go colonize Mars 1174 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:07,150 I mean colonizing Mars is his final 1175 00:52:13,350 --> 00:52:09,580 mission oh so it's gonna be you and 1176 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:13,360 Ilana I don't know if I want to be 1177 00:52:21,540 --> 00:52:19,210 stranded with a guy but no I think we 1178 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:21,550 both have a passion for opening up space 1179 00:52:26,330 --> 00:52:23,560 to everyone and we feel that it's 1180 00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:26,340 important for the future of humanity 1181 00:52:32,190 --> 00:52:29,380 yeah let's talk about that 1182 00:52:35,130 --> 00:52:32,200 because I guess the risk is that another 1183 00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:35,140 asteroid hits and just like the 1184 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:38,320 dinosaurs we would be extinct is that 1185 00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:39,730 the reason to colonize Mars 1186 00:52:44,550 --> 00:52:42,340 that's one reason or we have 1187 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:44,560 you know you talked about space war you 1188 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:47,050 know if we have a space war I think 1189 00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:49,570 there will be or new nuclear world I 1190 00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:52,990 think either an external source or you 1191 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:55,150 know something we do to ourselves may 1192 00:52:59,550 --> 00:52:57,970 render our planet inhabitable if the 1193 00:53:01,850 --> 00:52:59,560 dinosaurs had just thought about that 1194 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:01,860 they'd be on Mars right now hanging out 1195 00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:04,810 haven't they were actually a pretty 1196 00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:06,460 smart species yeah 1197 00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,270 they didn't dream about Mars uh probably 1198 00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:12,400 so but but really that's the reason to 1199 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:14,680 colonize Mars is to protect the human 1200 00:53:21,450 --> 00:53:18,670 race you know it's one reason just think 1201 00:53:23,580 --> 00:53:21,460 about early days when people came to you 1202 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:23,590 know discovered America 1203 00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:27,040 we continued to move forward and and you 1204 00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:29,470 know expand our borders and territories 1205 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:32,020 until we reach the other side of the 1206 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:35,170 continent and we always as humans we 1207 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:37,210 love to explore we want to find new 1208 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:42,010 places to settle and to grow our species 1209 00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:45,310 in the universe so you know being on 1210 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:48,100 earth then next natural place could be 1211 00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:52,450 and why is it Mars and not the moon as I 1212 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:55,510 said I mean Ilan's compassion is Mars 1213 00:54:00,540 --> 00:53:57,610 I believe we cannot even get to Mars 1214 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:00,550 without colonizing moon first because we 1215 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:02,410 need to be somewhere close where we can 1216 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:05,710 experiment and learn getting to Mars it 1217 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:08,410 takes a long time it's a lot harder we 1218 00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:10,450 haven't even figured out the impact of 1219 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:12,910 this long-duration flight on our bodies 1220 00:54:18,810 --> 00:54:17,290 whether we will survive it or not to be 1221 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:18,820 honest with you long term I think our 1222 00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:22,480 bodies will evolve the other option is 1223 00:54:30,130 --> 00:54:24,910 you look at how technology is evolving 1224 00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:30,140 and how robotics and genetic 1225 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:32,520 modification and enhancement is becoming 1226 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:35,130 part of everyday life so I think maybe 1227 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:38,130 once we are ready to actually settle on 1228 00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,410 Mars we won't look like what we look 1229 00:54:45,980 --> 00:54:42,960 like right now I mean our bodies could 1230 00:54:47,540 --> 00:54:45,990 be enhanced before going and creating it 1231 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:47,550 settlement what about just conditions 1232 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:49,770 for living what's better the Moon or 1233 00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:57,090 Mars I think well we have water on the 1234 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,440 moon 1235 00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:00,720 I think we've discovered now potentially 1236 00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:03,300 water on Mars so water is the most 1237 00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,150 important ingredient so I don't think 1238 00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:07,920 there's a huge difference 1239 00:55:15,590 --> 00:55:12,360 neither have an atmosphere I don't know 1240 00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:15,600 if there's a big advantage of one over 1241 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:19,280 the other except that moon is closer and 1242 00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:22,290 psychologically you know human beings as 1243 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:24,390 long as they can see Earth even if it's 1244 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:25,170 like this 1245 00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:27,570 tiny little thing in the background you 1246 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,430 feel like it's there it gives you some 1247 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:31,280 peace of mind so psychologically 1248 00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:35,310 probably moon is easier than Mars that's 1249 00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:36,780 why I think you know we need to train 1250 00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:39,660 ourselves a lot on the moon before we go 1251 00:55:43,940 --> 00:55:41,430 to Mars so any trips that would be done 1252 00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:43,950 privately say to the moon or to Mars 1253 00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:45,780 where those have to be essentially in 1254 00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:47,670 conjunction with a government in this 1255 00:55:55,580 --> 00:55:52,710 case the US government does it have to 1256 00:55:58,940 --> 00:55:55,590 be it's a good question I don't think it 1257 00:56:01,610 --> 00:55:58,950 has to put there there's no law 1258 00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:01,620 basically it's regulation for Mars or 1259 00:56:05,810 --> 00:56:03,390 well but you're saying that you had to 1260 00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:05,820 get FAA approval to go into space to 1261 00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:09,390 launch right so Africa didn't deny your 1262 00:56:15,050 --> 00:56:11,880 launch yes that could happen but if you 1263 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:15,060 meet the launch requirement I don't 1264 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:16,770 think there's anything that stops you 1265 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:19,050 from a private company perspective to 1266 00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,410 land on the moon or on Mars the question 1267 00:56:28,670 --> 00:56:25,200 is once you land there can you claim and 1268 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:28,680 say I own Mars yeah I mean Yahoo is 1269 00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:29,970 colonizing it is it 1270 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:32,040 Elon Musk and SpaceX or is it the United 1271 00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:33,690 States dad those are really good 1272 00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,550 question because that's how why there's 1273 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:37,680 a whole new field of space law that's 1274 00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:39,930 being developed and growing right now 1275 00:56:44,259 --> 00:56:41,839 because there is no regular 1276 00:56:47,949 --> 00:56:44,269 that governs what happens when someone 1277 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:47,959 lands on on Mars or on the moon mm-hmm 1278 00:56:52,059 --> 00:56:50,569 so we do have a little bit of a risk of 1279 00:56:55,299 --> 00:56:52,069 one of my other favorite movies 1280 00:56:57,999 --> 00:56:55,309 Moonraker means bond drago if you 1281 00:57:00,160 --> 00:56:58,009 remember him it was up to no good flying 1282 00:57:03,429 --> 00:57:00,170 space holes around in space do we have 1283 00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:03,439 to fear a Drago type person not Elon I'm 1284 00:57:10,769 --> 00:57:04,910 talking about he's cool but yeah you 1285 00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:10,779 know the evil Elon I hope not I mean 1286 00:57:18,339 --> 00:57:13,910 humans are capable of the most wonderful 1287 00:57:21,789 --> 00:57:18,349 things and also the most horrible things 1288 00:57:26,759 --> 00:57:21,799 and I think the number of people who do 1289 00:57:29,499 --> 00:57:26,769 great things and are compassionate and 1290 00:57:32,499 --> 00:57:29,509 peace-loving are a lot more than the 1291 00:57:34,839 --> 00:57:32,509 evil ones but unfortunately one evil 1292 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:34,849 person can do a lot of damage so I'm 1293 00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,930 hoping that they will get access to to 1294 00:57:44,049 --> 00:57:41,359 space or a space program or a space 1295 00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:44,059 weapon okay let me just finish by 1296 00:57:47,620 --> 00:57:45,680 talking just a little bit about XPrize 1297 00:57:49,689 --> 00:57:47,630 because you're now the CEO of XPrize you 1298 00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:49,699 were the first one to put up the the 1299 00:57:54,969 --> 00:57:52,640 first prize and now are the CEO and 1300 00:57:56,229 --> 00:57:54,979 there's you have a number of prizes now 1301 00:57:58,029 --> 00:57:56,239 that are out there available 1302 00:58:01,120 --> 00:57:58,039 approximately how many the people are 1303 00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:01,130 chasing yeah but I think eight prizes 1304 00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:04,729 now and highlight what your favorite one 1305 00:58:10,329 --> 00:58:05,839 right now the one you're most excited 1306 00:58:12,729 --> 00:58:10,339 about oh there's so many so we have one 1307 00:58:14,650 --> 00:58:12,739 that I was personally involved with a 1308 00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:14,660 little bit which is exciting which is 1309 00:58:20,049 --> 00:58:17,569 called the A&A avatar XPrize I'm a 1310 00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:20,059 techie so the techie ones are very 1311 00:58:28,479 --> 00:58:23,209 compelling to me so this is basically a 1312 00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:28,489 an avatar where a human can control and 1313 00:58:35,049 --> 00:58:32,150 feel like they are you know through this 1314 00:58:39,669 --> 00:58:35,059 avatar and another location through 1315 00:58:42,989 --> 00:58:39,679 their thoughts through thoughts you will 1316 00:58:46,509 --> 00:58:42,999 be connected to a sort of a robotic 1317 00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,519 humanoid and another location where you 1318 00:58:52,689 --> 00:58:48,799 can sense and control and see through 1319 00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:52,699 that humanoid robot so you're not taught 1320 00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:55,000 controlling another section 1321 00:58:59,490 --> 00:58:57,760 being but it's a device it's but sorry 1322 00:59:01,830 --> 00:58:59,500 are you thought controlling the robot 1323 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:01,840 yes you're taught and your actions yeah 1324 00:59:11,130 --> 00:59:05,760 so you're physically and mentally true 1325 00:59:15,630 --> 00:59:11,140 arv are you know specific controls 1326 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:15,640 you're controlling a humanoid robot and 1327 00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:17,140 I know the ultimate goal of all your 1328 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:19,000 prizes is something that is going to 1329 00:59:25,170 --> 00:59:21,970 help the globe what is it that you're 1330 00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:25,180 hoping so this is this can be used in 1331 00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:27,580 multiple ways for example there are 1332 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:31,960 extreme situations where it's dangerous 1333 00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:34,290 for human to actually enter for example 1334 00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:37,660 you know if there is a nuclear disaster 1335 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:40,270 and there is a need for rescue mission 1336 00:59:46,530 --> 00:59:42,730 or rescue operation or repair operation 1337 00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:46,540 someone who has to have special skills 1338 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:49,060 can actually to through this humanoid 1339 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:52,570 robot specifically do tasks that are 1340 00:59:56,910 --> 00:59:55,570 very delicate and still accomplish the 1341 01:00:00,180 --> 00:59:56,920 same thing without in there injuring 1342 01:00:02,610 --> 01:00:00,190 themselves or one person can for example 1343 01:00:06,420 --> 01:00:02,620 a specialized surgeon can do multiple 1344 01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:06,430 surgeries through these robots in 1345 01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:08,260 different parts of the world remote 1346 01:00:14,070 --> 01:00:10,780 parts of the world and go from one 1347 01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:14,080 corner of the planet to another to all 1348 01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:16,120 these means of these how much time do 1349 01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:17,860 they have to come up with that because I 1350 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:19,420 know each prize has an expiration right 1351 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:24,250 yes so this is a 5-year prize so we are 1352 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:26,620 just coming up to early registration 1353 01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:29,650 close and the registration will 1354 01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:32,110 completely close end of the year so 1355 01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:34,300 we're recruiting teams right now and 1356 01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:37,030 it's very exciting we have an AI for 1357 01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:41,740 good prize that we had 30 teams 1358 01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:44,200 finalists that were just announced and 1359 01:00:49,610 --> 01:00:47,140 we're this is using machine learning and 1360 01:00:51,780 --> 01:00:49,620 artificial intelligence to solve 1361 01:00:54,270 --> 01:00:51,790 problems that will bring benefit to 1362 01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:54,280 humanity so we have people with ideas in 1363 01:00:59,280 --> 01:00:56,880 energy in environment in healthcare 1364 01:01:01,470 --> 01:00:59,290 using machine learning to solve those 1365 01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:01,480 types of problems we have a global 1366 01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:03,460 learning XPrize which is also very 1367 01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:06,880 exciting and we have finalists five 1368 01:01:10,330 --> 01:01:07,790 finalists I 1369 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:10,340 to find in villages in Tanzania teaching 1370 01:01:15,730 --> 01:01:12,410 kids through a mobile device to read 1371 01:01:18,010 --> 01:01:15,740 write and basic arithmetic from ground 1372 01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:18,020 zero without any teachers so that will 1373 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:22,630 revolutionize you know learning without 1374 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:27,410 without teachers probably a huge batch 1375 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:29,570 of potential prizes that you guys are 1376 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:31,730 considering absolutely we have probably 1377 01:01:38,110 --> 01:01:35,810 another 20-30 ideas in the works and you 1378 01:01:41,170 --> 01:01:38,120 know any of those yours in there a 1379 01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:41,180 little pet I can't talk about that I 1380 01:01:48,370 --> 01:01:44,180 can't talk about our upcoming prizes but 1381 01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:48,380 I tell you I I still love space X prizes 1382 01:01:53,650 --> 01:01:50,750 and hope that we'll have new prizes and 1383 01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:53,660 related to space exploration and we've 1384 01:02:02,940 --> 01:01:58,000 been talking about you know Mars and 1385 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:02,950 moon and colonization so I believe that 1386 01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,210 you know we've been going to space 1387 01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:07,760 through Rockets ever since we started 1388 01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:10,430 the space program so I'm hoping that 1389 01:02:15,460 --> 01:02:12,790 maybe someone will revolutionize 1390 01:02:18,490 --> 01:02:15,470 propulsion system so the way we would go 1391 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:18,500 to space will change completely and we 1392 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:21,290 would be able to zoom to distant parts 1393 01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:23,570 of the galaxy faster so how about black 1394 01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:26,180 hole travel won't you throw that why not 1395 01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,060 why not I mean I'm a Trekkie so I'm 1396 01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:31,520 looking for the warp drive to be able to 1397 01:02:35,050 --> 01:02:33,320 travel but isn't it fun just to dream 1398 01:02:37,330 --> 01:02:35,060 like that as far as coming up with these 1399 01:02:39,580 --> 01:02:37,340 prizes because you know what people are 1400 01:02:41,110 --> 01:02:39,590 going to go after it have a party and if 1401 01:02:44,830 --> 01:02:41,120 they don't get it they don't get it but 1402 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:44,840 absolutely so we always so we don't want 1403 01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:46,610 to have one of those prizes that we know 1404 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:49,190 no one will want win so part of the time 1405 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:51,530 we spend here is to make sure we add 1406 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:54,170 that edge of audacious but achievable 1407 01:03:00,640 --> 01:02:57,130 which is a very hard balance to achieve 1408 01:03:02,890 --> 01:03:00,650 but it's important for us to pick prizes 1409 01:03:05,050 --> 01:03:02,900 where we think there is benefit that the 1410 01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:05,060 industry is not working on it because 1411 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:07,430 they haven't either figured out why it's 1412 01:03:14,140 --> 01:03:10,130 important or they there's no incentive 1413 01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:14,150 there and find that edge where you know 1414 01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:16,700 you're going to push things technology's 1415 01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:20,360 significantly so it's an audacious goal 1416 01:03:22,930 --> 01:03:21,440 but it's still 1417 01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:22,940 Chifa bull so we don't want to break any 1418 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:25,550 laws of physics yeah well I know you 1419 01:03:29,050 --> 01:03:26,690 have a flight to catch 1420 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:29,060 unfortunately it's not to the moon it's 1421 01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:30,490 design Francisco 1422 01:03:35,740 --> 01:03:34,400 but one day you'll will have to end our 1423 01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:35,750 interview because you're off to the moon 1424 01:03:41,050 --> 01:03:39,470 we'll do a podcast on the new show thank